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Apr 26Liked by karin valis

I read recently in a chapter called 'ARTISTS, POETS, AND PRIESTS' by S.Gooch "Peter Redgrove expresses the same idea in a different way. He states that the data of science are experienced as poetry by creative scientists; while the data of poetry are experienced by the creative poet as science.

Science, of course, means knowledge. Redgrove considers it symptomatic of the schizoid thinking of our modern society that it separates the disciplines of poetry and science by dwelling on the differences between them instead of the likenesses. Redgrove insists that the insights of science (as opposed to the grim plodding through the experimental verification of the insight subsequently) are arrived at by the same mental machinery or set that brings the images of poetry".

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May 5Liked by karin valis

Thank you for this: personally have been hesitant to meaningfully involve AI in any major part of my creative process for the reasons you describe here, heavy on the high school summary/analysis part; part of me wonders how urgent of a question convenient defaulting to genAI for writing is for our culture/society, and if questions about taste are as warranted as Big Tech claims.

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Thank you, and exactly as you said - I guess this is just another straw on the general direction towards everything being the-least-common-denominator mid fast-food fashion 15 second piece of content debris that pollutes our mind space every day. AI can be really exciting - there's plenty of far-out artistic uses of new technologies which just blow my mind. And that's how it should be, every new technology opens up a space for new creative outlets - being it digital art, 3D or generative code. But it always needs to be a close collaboration between an artist and a stack of new technologies, never just the models themselves. The attempts to replace the creatives with AI is a very alarming trend, especially being aware how aesthetically BAD the non-curated results are, which is a parameter that unfortunately doesn't figure in any ROI reports of the Big Tech companies. But then again, what can we expect from people who consider Elon Musk's biography to be a literary classics?

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Loved this!

‘What if all these poetic twists are some higher-order pattern recognition of the language model?’ is definitely going to haunt me and I enjoyed the Coehlo anecdote (I had a similar experience ha).

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Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it!

(and I'm so happy to hear I'm not the only one lol)

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